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10.37pm - Interview Transcript


Brian said

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      It’s 22 1/2  minutes to eleven.


And made an introduction about Concorde, then he played Mike Bannister’s famous speech about Concorde.


After Mike Bannister’s speech Brain said

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Life is not only gonna be different for Mike Bannister but for Jetinder Sira who has fair claim for being one of Concorde’s most ardent fans…… he claims to have seen…...I dunno but almost every Concorde take off ?


And err your in the studio with us now ….having come straight from Heathrow.


We where only talking a few minuets ago with reactions and revelations to Princess Dianna’s etc, etc, being very very emotional


I imagine you had a very very emotional day to day.


My reply

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mmm yes yes I did…….


Brian asked

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And you where at Heathrow ?


My reply

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Yep ……


Brian Hayes

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Under what circumstances ?


My reply

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Errrrrrrrrrr I got there at …….let have a think 10, 10:30 in the morning, the aim was to get theee 10am take off, but as usual the trains mucked up


(every one in the studio giggled)


And I errrr how shall I put this ….. got to Hatton Cross by about 10:25, heard Concorde’s engines roaring and thought ahhhh missed it, just missed it …… and that hurt like hell, but I was stuck around there and we managed to get the 2pm take off and we went to get the landings, so that was alright plus we managed to get the tow across …….. and we managed to get all 3 Concordes.


Brian Hayes

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I said that you have errr seen almost every Concorde take off ….


My reply

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mmmmm


Brian Hayes

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How can that be real ?


My reply

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For what it is that I started to fall in love with Concorde when I was 6 years old….. because Concorde happened around 1975, 1976  and I remember seeing the twin Concordes with thee British Airways and Air France nose to nose … at a US airport and I just fell in love.  


Brian Hayes

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Well I was at Heathrow at that day and saw it from the airport as I was doing a raid program from there and I’d be kinda of errr mustn’t be girly about this fell in love with it as well (we all giggled), what about the scene today there ?


My reply

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It was crazy …. Crazy in the sense that there where so many people there as normally when she lands there’s a hand full of people, a hand full of dedicated Concorde spotters, …… but today every where, where she was you seas, heads of people as far as the eye could see, it was mad.


Brian Hayes

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and they all had a camera ?


My reply

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Yes …. well not, no 90% of them had cameras, some had videos, some had tape recorders … but they where all there to see Concorde.


Brian Hayes

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I’m gonna ask you some thing which may be impossible to answer and that is errrr what is it, that errr thee take off of Concorde does for you ? what do you feel when its happening … what do you think of  ?


My reply

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Every time I see her … she … your right this is difficult to describe the actual take off it self first you hear the noise, the engine start, you can hear it for miles and miles and you think that there’s only one noise and that’s her engines……


Once they start up and she starts powering down the runway if your at the opposite end of the runway waiting for it to fly over, you see and small dot and its rapidly coming towards you and as soon as she rotates as they say, when she takes off you just feel your heart pounding inside you and then as she crosses your line of vision ..


Brian Hayes

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Is it a physical excitement ?


My reply

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Yes it is physical excitement because when she actually crosses you line of vision the sound actually hits your ears, you get knocked over ..


Brian Hayes

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Can you tell the difference between the various Concordes ?


My reply

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No


Brian Hayes

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They all sound the same ?



My reply in a giggly voice  

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To me they all look the same apart from the registration.


Brian Hayes

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They are suppose to I suppose are they, Mike Powel you spent some time working on Concorde, I’ve flown it once and there is a different feeling about it obviously a very different kind of aeroplane…..


Mike Powel’s reply

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There really is and I was long haul cabin crew and a lot of people thought long hall cabin crew where the ones who actually manned Concorde, in fact it’s the short hall aircraft.


So of course all those crew who actually got to go on it because of the 3 hours 50, they use to go off to Paris and other places as well and we all stayed in the same crew hotel and its was absolutely fantastic.


I just remember a story ware we where actually taking all the passengers through from Concorde in  to the baggage area and the paparazzi asked me as they always did who have you got famous on board tonight ? And I said no one at all actually and this silver haired fox got up from the carousel and picking his suite case said (in American accent) thanks a lot ….. it was Steve martin.


(every one in the studio giggled)

Brian Hayes

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What about you Jasmine ?


Jasmine’s reply

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Well…… errr not really … in that errr I never realty managed to get on it …… I think my feelings today where ….. I’ll never manage it now, I always thought one day, one day when I am really rich  I will so I was a bit fed up to see it finish before I had a chance to go on it ….. but I’m just fascinated how do work ?


Do work in the evenings ?


My reply

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Errrr I don’t ……. what’s happened is by profession I’m a computer operator, I operate mainframe systems, midrange the whole lot……. Put it this way BBC have like ever other organisation got as massive data centre some where the guys who actually run their systems. ……. But what happened in may 2001 was I use to work as a contractor.


For a certain IT firm we ran the learn direct website very successful but the contract ended, when the contract ended the IT recession started from 2001 onwards………


Jasmine

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So you have quite a lot of time ?


My reply

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I have a lot of time …….plus on top of that I temp, on and off but the taxman knows it …..


(every one in the studio giggled)

Brian Hayes

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What you gonna do now ?  



My reply

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Errrr apart from looking for work….. and back, back in to .I.T. which is what I wonna do any way if I can, I’m gonna continue,  Concorde still has her ferry flights meaning they are gonna leave Heathrow and go to what ever final destinations they are gonna stay at.


Jasmine

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Oh its gonna keep going then the actual plane ?


My reply

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Its gonna keep going for another 4 or 5 weeks, I think they gonna have 1 flight every week, I dunno when its gonna happen, I dunno what time I need to find that out.


But after that life will have to go back to normal, in the sense that if I want to take pictures I’ll go to canary wharf and take pictures of the river.


Brian Hayes

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The underground station is quite spectacular there.



My reply in a giggly voice  

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It is but I’m not a train spotter.


Brian Hayes

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But I mean the train stations in London are fine indeed….. Kim what’s your relationship  to this aeroplane ?


Kim’s reply in a joking tone

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My relationship is complete fury….. errr  my wife flew on it from New York this afternoon, I am so resentful of this fact, that I certainly don’t want to hear any more about Concorde.


(every one in the studio giggled)


Kim read out a few e-mails which views sent to Radio 5 live about Concorde and we all giggled at them.


Brian Hayes asked

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Jetinder you brought in a funny little stool thing what’s all that about ?


A I laughed)  I replied

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Right the reason being……


Brian Hayes

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Describe it first of all.


My reply

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It’s a blue stool with 3 blocks of wood on it …. on each foot.


The reason behind that is that, at Heathrow airport, you got a normal fence then you got a grey band in the middle. And that grey band basically designed so you cant see down the runway or see around the airport.


I bout the stool in may June this year to allow me to stand on this thing so I can look over the grey bands, so with the camera point the lens to the fence, so when the camera see’s it, the camera can see the fence, so that’s the only  purpose there isn’t anything dodgy about it.


Brian Hayes

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No because Kim photographers always have these outside hospitals for famous people and babies


Kim’s reply

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And now they are getting bigger with foot stools and step ladders, its getting out of control there,


Brian Hayes

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Soon they’ll be hanging from helicopters.


Me

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Funny thing is if this was the 1970’s I would have bout platform shoes and I am dead serious.


(every one in the studio giggled)


Brian Hayes

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You would have been sorry


(every one in the studio giggled)


My reply

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I don’t care it would have got me the view I wanted.


(every one in the studio giggled)


Brian Hayes

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Anyway your life now will mostly be without Concorde, no other piece of transport kit would attract you ….



My reply

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Not really funning this with 747s, they’re ok …..



Brian Hayes

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In their own little way.


My reply

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But Concorde ……. WOW


Brian Hayes

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What’s best  seeing it take off or seeing it land ?


My reply

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Take off is the best, landing is also good but landing when the weather is damp….. my friends are gonna love this but I call it the steam off wings effect, basically when she comes in the air’s damp,  you get little clouds,  


Brian Hayes

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That’s right you do.


My reply

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The official name is vortexes

 

Brian Hayes

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I’ve seen them on television.


My reply

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But I call it steam off wings because it looks like steam coming off wings, it’s as simple as that.


Jasmine

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Do you have a Concorde appreciation society you belong to ?


My reply

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Am allowed to say this ?



Brian Hayes

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I don’t know what your going to say.


My reply

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Right I belong to website called ConcordeSST.com and on there its Concorde enthusiast who are nuts about the plane, we chat about  her, we talk about her, if there’s any problems on her we talk about it.


Brian Hayes

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So if any body wants to know anything about it that’s the website…..


Jasmine

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What you going to talk about now.


Brian Hayes

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Well I’m afraid I’m gonna have to tell you that you will have come down now from this very you  have been on today, I trust you have a relaxing weekend.



In a giggly voice my reply

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Mmmmmmm fairly relaxing I’m gonna go back to the airport to see her again, well what it is that, well Mr Policeman’s listening to this so I have to be careful what I say. What it is that where you’ve got the Concorde hangers.


All five of them are parked there, now I’m gonna to legally, I’m saying this legally Mr Police officer I do not want you guys to arrest me. I’m gonna try and sort of see her with my stool. If I can see over the fence bit Mr Policeman cant touch me because it’s a legal place.  


Because of 5 of them are in a  arrow type formation that’ll never happen again so I want to take couple of snaps of that then go home.



Brian Hayes

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Ok well no tears before bedtime thank you very for being with us

Jetinder Sira.


(I happily laughed)

My reply

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It’s been a pleasure